Research about the new Arizona law, review the position of President Obama and Calderon´s. Answer the questions carefully, remember be objective.
1. Why do you think that an incosntitutional law by experts can be popular with the people?
2. Do you think that violates human rights?
3. Do you think that its the right moment to relaunch the migration reform?
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ResponderEliminarIf a law is unconstitutional, probbably it´s created by the society that haven´t been proved by the Congress, so the law will be popular between people.
ResponderEliminarIt violates the human rights but the fact of “ilegal inmigration” violates the laws of a nation and most be punished.
But personally I think is unnecessary because USA needs plenty of Mexicans for the sustain of their economy.
1.- well,the people often use to believe what the government says, in Arizona, this law may be accepted by the people because they believe what the authorities there say. It is inconstitutional, but the experts in Arizona think it is not, they think it is inconstitutional to all the people living in the United Stated because they think they don't let the American people to have a job, even though they don't consider the benefits that immigrants can give to them.
ResponderEliminar2.-Indeed I consider it violates human rights, immigrants are humans, with feelings, they just want to go to the USA to have better opportunnities in life, Why do they have to punish them for that? Before this law, people were just deported, but today it is a crime, How can you consider this a crime? they are not doing anything bad, this is why i consider it is a violation to human rights, the punishments are too bigs.
3.- I think it is a good moment to relaunch a migration reform, people need some faith in the new president, at the begin of his entrance to presidence, he said that he will do a migration reform, and it failed. Today people need to believe in something, they are feeling really bad, because they can't even get out of their houses. a Migration reform will be against of the law SB-1070, it would be like a contrary to this law and help people.
I think it's beacause people think that all the laws that experts declare are made for their own good, that's why we sometimes don't see the real intention of the laws.
ResponderEliminarI believe they do violate the human rights because we're supposed to be equally treated all over the world.
I believe that it's about time to reform the migratory laws because like it or not USA's economy is mostly done by inmigrants that work all over USA making it a more succesful country, thay should give more opportunities to them, i'm not saying that all the people that go are good but most of them are, delinquents are the ones that should be deported
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8641346.stm
I think that the Arizona law is unnecessary because the United States need Mexican workers. They don’t affect anyone, the only thing they need to do is return mexicans without documents, but not every one of them, only the ones who doesn't do nothing (doesn't work, study, etc.)
ResponderEliminarThey violate the human rights because the people are free to choose the place where they want to live, following a process to live legally in that place. But the United States are a country and they can make the laws they want for their country if it's approved by the congress. Presidents Calderon and Obama are not in favor of the Arizona law, they think it's unnecessary. I also think the same, because the U.S. have lived this way for many years without complexities.
I think that is moment to relaunch the migration reform because the United States need the mexican workers as they need the United States to live, so it’s better to legalize them and avoid major problems.
Riccardi, N. (2010). Arizona lawmakers modify immigration law. Estados Unidos: Los Angeles Times. Recovered May 21st, 2010 from http://articles.latimes.com/2010/may/01/nation/la-na-arizona-immigration-20100501
(2010). Calderón y Obama critican la ley de Arizona. España: La razón.es. Recovered May 21st, 2010 from http://www.larazon.es/noticia/416-calderon-y-obama-estrechan-lazos-sobre-inmigracion
People believe what the experts say, even if the governor justified the signing of the immigration law by criticizing the U.S. Congress for its inaction addressing the topic of illegal immigration, saying that immigrants affect the US economy.
ResponderEliminarIt is without doubt a violation to human rights. SB 1070 gives local police the power to detain people if officers have "reasonable" suspicion that it is undocumented. In other words, the law opened the door to racial discrimination! And it makes honest and hard working people look like criminals.
Since SB1070, I have doubts about migration reforms. Will it be in favor of immigrants or against? Time will tell if the people in the US come to their senses and protest against the Arizona law or be blinded with their prejudgement and create similar reforms throughout the country.
Sources
Cancino, J. (2010). Gobernadora de Arizona firmó ley: Miles sin papeles ahora son delincuentes. Mexico: Univision. Recovered May21, 2010 from: http://www.univision.com/content/content.jhtml?cid=2374002
1) Because, acording to surveys, americans believe they´re superior to the rest of the world's cultures, and if someone is trying to "copy" their culture, its wrong, so the "inmigrants problem" is in some way an impact to this believe.
ResponderEliminar2) Yes, a human being is a human being, we all have the same rights and dutys, there are no exceptions.
3) Because of the polemic of the situation and the way people are responding, I believe its necessary to re-write migration policies
Sources: Chirinos C. (2010) “Obama y Calderón critican ley de Arizona”, recuperado de http://www.bbc.co.uk/mundo/america_latina/2010/05/100519_1735_calderon_obama_eeuu_ley_arizona_mz.shtml el 21 de Mayo del 2010
OAS chief slams impact of Arizona law (2010), recuperado de http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90001/90777/90852/6973808.html el 21 de Mayo del 2010
I don't think that the word: "superior" belongs to anyone. "We are the world" and as a fact us, humans, we need to support each other. Yes, every nation or country has their own pro and con. They know it, and they try to figure it out to be the first but not for a bad way, maybe the gobernator Jan Bewer did this in a way to organize USA, to "start all over agen".
ResponderEliminarmyabe this is a way to tell the people to not be afraid to ask, to try, to get a permit to work on USA.
Myabe in a way they are violatin but let's think:
Mexicans:
Aren't we violating the rules crossing the border without legal papers and risking our life?
Americans:
Aren't we violating our own humans beings rights to get the chance other people be part of this country?
United States of NortAmerica is a good place to live, is a good nation, full of opportunities, full of dreams, but sometimes, the people that belongs to, are to conceited and that cause that people say: " NO, you are not accepted, is my land... shu" And it's not good!, USA is a wonderful place, they have everything, they should be more humble.
United States Mexicans, is a good place to live to, but people has to see the history that is in the nation, fight for it, fight for be as great as it were years ago, a place were everyone arrive because of the cofee, or the so well called "Tortillas", the food, or even the culture, mayas, zapotecas, the mistery of.
I think mexicans must be proud or what they own, not search for another place, Why? because the people in mexico is good, is hard-working.
I think Jan Brewer is to rude. and president OBama don't know what to do ( IM NOT SAYING HE IS DUMPY.. I'M SAYING HE DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO ABORD THE SITUATION HAVING WHAT SHE POSTULE!, FROM WHERE TO START TO GET TO A GOOD CONCLUTION).
I think the problem is her, and i think she's angry!.
1) The reason this law will be popular among citizens is due to 2 things: 1)citizens will be victims of this law´s objective (obviously mexicans or latin americans that look suspicious), and 2)there are some americans, believe it or not, that believe that mexicans are taking jobs away from them (this could stir racial comments or racist activities from them to mexicans, even though I hope it doesn´t have to go to such extent...who knows).
ResponderEliminar2. Yes, because the cops are demanding suspicious immigrants for their documents, even when some might be American citizens.
3. Pretty much. They will have to rewrite their migration reforms, but who knows what results they will bring. They could be positive or negative. Measures will have to be taken in order to agree if mexicans (and latin americans alike) should be allowed to immigrate. If that is allowed, there should be an increase in security inspection because there could be a possibility that a drug dealer or delinquent could take advantage of this and try to infiltrate.
Sources:
1. Archibold, R. (2010) “Arizona Enacts Stringent Law on Immigration”, retrieved May 21, 2010. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/24/us/politics/24immig.html
2. Llana, S. (2010) “Felipe Calderon calls Arizona immigration law racial profiling”, retrieved May 21, 2010. http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Americas/2010/0520/Felipe-Calderon-calls-Arizona-immigration-law-racial-profiling
1.- It is popular because it affects too much peole, this creates big manifestations that create a popularity between the people. Too much unconfortabel people = popularity (sad but true).
ResponderEliminar2.- Yes, in the moment they ask you for papers even is you are american citizen that looks like an immigrant.
3.- Even if the US need the maxican labor force. I think that its necesary a law like this, because the number of immigrants in the US is growing exponencially and I think this should stop. Because there would be a moment that the work would be over and those people would be on streets, etc. I think that immigrants are welcome in the US, only if there are legal, a good and ethil way to work.
Yes it can, if it is something that attracts the people. In this case , the con-posture is a bit extreme, so that may be the reason that some people prefer the support it.
ResponderEliminarYes, I think the posture violates human rights, because it treats the immigrants as if they weren’t worth the value of an abiding citizen. Plus, the people that go and work illegally in the United States support in some way the economy of the country, so I firmly believe that they are actually being a little to harsh on them.
No, because we’re in the middle of a crisis. If the United States relaunches the migratory law it will have repercussions in their economy. Plus, Mexicans are more willing to work at the United States now that there are no jobs at Mexico. We clean their houses and plant their fields and they pay our work kicking us away.
Sources: Chirinos C. (2010) “Obama y Calderón critican ley de Arizona”, Recovered may 21st 2010 http://www.bbc.co.uk/mundo/america_latina/2010/05/100519_1735_calderon_obama_eeuu_ley_arizona_mz.shtml
1.-yes it can be popular with the people, because it is a social phenomenon, includes the U.S citizens, legal immigrants and illegal immigrates. This has received national and international attention because it has provoked considerable controversy as to criminalize undocumented immigrants suspected of crimes and to consider all those who by their appearance may seem immigrants is something inhuman.
ResponderEliminarI think that violates human rights because it treats immigrants like criminals, when some are also pursuing their studies. President Barack Obama in Washington DC said that the law was "a wrong measure" and called on Congress to speed up the immigration reform debate that, to be adopted, it needs bipartisan support
I think if it's time to launch a comprehensive immigration reform that makes at least deport only illegal immigrants who are not working or studying.
Andres Ley Fuentes, 18741, first semester
reference: http://www.univision.com/content/content.jhtml?cid=2374002
The law SB1070 Arizona by Jorge A. de Regules Soto. English Advanced I. Semester 1. ID. 17627.
ResponderEliminarThe idea of the SB 1070 is controversial, because in few words it's mainly about deporting and preventing unlawfully "aliens" in the US country, but the media used is inspecting all the people who has Latin features. The idea of only check people by their nationality is racist, discriminatory & ugly. Face it up, we are living in the XXI century, we are not wild & crazy animals, we are fully capable thinking & reasonable humans beans. According to:, the web page named below, the requirement that said that all the legal immigrants had to have their papers all time long, like a passport, was suspended indefinitely; and actually that's a rude law, if you are living in a country, if you are paying taxes, going to work, living peacefully, why would you will be forced to be checked by the police every time you go out to the street only because you are a Latin. U.S. District Judge Susan Bolton said the law would put an unfair burden on legal immigrants and The Obama administration and American Civil Liberties Union had asked Bolton to strike down the law. Critics say the law codifies racial profiling and legalizes the harassment of all Latinos, legal or not, according to the web page. So, if Arizona it's conformed by cities, the cities are conformed by people, and the people it's people, here, in US and even in China, they are human beans, they feel, the eat, they think, they are the town, and there is no reason of why the people must be inspection at every moment, if they are citizens naturalized or born, they must have the freedom of traveling around their country, even if they are white, black, yellow, brown or green, it doesn't matter, they are humans, like you, like me, because all the people make the country.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2010/07/28/2010-07-28_arizona_immigration_law_sb_1070_has_most_controversial_parts_blocked_by_federal_.html
An unconstutional law by experts can be popular among people because all the Latin immigrants in the United States are going to be worried about that law because just for their looks they are going to be discriminated by police or maybe even arrested even if they are American Citizens. This law violetes human rights because you can't be discriminated by other people only because you are different, it is sad to see that people are getting arrested just for looking different even if they are American Citizen.I think this is the right time to change that law before it is to late and all U.S. gets that law in all their states, this is the right time to change their minds and get to the ground because they think they are superior but they aren't, they are just like us.United States needs to think what they are getting people through and they need to get in our feet.
ResponderEliminarSources:
1. Felipe Calderón reafirma en EU el rechazo de México hacia ley Arizona, Recovered September 20th 2010 from http://mexico.cnn.com/nacional/2010/05/19/felipe-calderon-reafirma-en-eu-el-rechazo-de-mexico-hacia-ley-arizona.
2. Chirinos C. (2010) Obama y Calderón critican ley de Arizona, Recovered September 20th 2010 from http://www.bbc.co.uk/mundo/america_latina/2010/05/100519_1735_calderon_obama_eeuu_ley_arizona_mz.shtml
Daniel Rolando Guerrero Gonzalez 18517, First Semester, Advanced Level 1
Arizona's new law has brought major protests across the states, but why?
ResponderEliminarThe has been on the news almost everyday since it was aproved in may of this year. This new reform on arizona's law code is so popular because it's controvertial, most people don't agree with it.
President Obama for example has criticized the law because it will challenge the federal power for implementing new reforms nationwide on the immigration issue.
This bill is indeed a violation on human rights because you could be detained or arrested just because of your looks. But honestly, this type of laws are in effect countries like France, wich has a major immigration problem, and it doesn't necessarily violates human rights, it's the cops and the law efforcement forces that might violate the rights of the people.
The time has come for a new immigration reform to be passed, but on a nationwide level.
Laws like the Arizona's sb 1070 only make this harder on the federal goverment.
With over 11 million illegal immigrants in the United states, everyone's looking to the border state of Arizona where drastic meassures are been taken.
Christopher Urbalejo
18039 1er semestre
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE66U0HJ20100801
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-10791871#story_continues_1
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/24/us/politics/24immig.html
First of all, the people who believe in this law don't think it's unconstitutional. Why? Well, because they can't relate to these people and they don't want to. The state of Arizona is sick of people 'invading' their space, state and jobs. Since the economy isn't stable and the employment is scarce I think they're looking for someone to blame. And that someone, of course, is the immigrant.
ResponderEliminarThat and controversy have helped the cause gain more and more supporters.
To a certain degree, yes, it is a violation of the human rights. But only because of the racial profiling which means that they can interrogate anyone who they think looks like an immigrant. Yes, that means anyone who looks even slightly Mexican or Latin-American. Perhaps it isn't so much a violation of the human rights as it is of the constitution of the United States. The constitution states that a person is innocent until proven guilty and the law clearly contradicts that very statement.
Of course it's a violation of the human rights!
I don't necessarily think it's the right moment to reform the law because that depends on the side you're on or what you agree on. For example, if you agree with the law you would think it's great timing because if they fire immigrants that means there are vacant positions and that means more employment for the citizens of the United States. If you disagree with the law you would think it's absolutely horrible timing and that it is totally unfair because 'innocent' people are losing their jobs, homes and being deported.
It all depends on your point of view.
SOURCES
http://www.elpais.com/articulo/internacional/ley/Arizona/presenta/tema/decisivo/proximas/legislativas/EE/UU/elpepuint/20100729elpepuint_7/Tes
http://www.elmanana.com.mx/notas.asp?id=177770
Sofia Villalobos Arguilez
#18776 1D
Advanced English I
A law made by experts can be something so popular because it moves a country because it is a clear way to explain to all Mexicans to say that the racists. Also it promotes to all of the people that are not of that country to fight for their own good.
ResponderEliminarThe Arizona´s SB 1070 violates the human rights. They have the right to live without nobody disturbs them physicist does not even attack them. This law also knows him as the law of the hatred.This law must not be relaunch because it violates the human rights. This law is aggressive to all the aliens that live in that state and also it promotes the anger of that people to fight that’s why this law must not be relaunch.
Alejandro Espinoza Martínez 18186 1 semestre
BIBLIOGRAFIA
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arizona_SB1070
Leslie Sandoval Tovar
ResponderEliminar1E
18403
This law became really popular among people because almost 5.5 % of Arizona’s population are illegal inmigrants and they are part of Arizona’s economy just as anybody else. And now even transporting inmigrants in your car is a crime, even they have the right to send you to jail if you look like an inmigrant. This law violates the most sacred rights we born with, the human rights, wich prohibits all forms of discrimination, this one being racial. And we have the right to get a better lifestyle. I believe that the U.S. government has always been unfair because the U.S. citizens can cross the border whenever they want, and we have to spend thousands of dollars and hours in an office to have the chance to have a visa. Times are changing. I say that this is the time to the government to show some compassion and relaunch this inhuman law.
http://www.univision.com/content/content.jhtml?cid=2374002
1.- The SB 1070, in my opinion, is popular because it was made by experts, and most of people think that whatever they say or do its the right thing to do. I think that it's also popular because the controversy it causes, the controversy always make something more "popular" but, being popular, doesn't always means that it's accepted by everyone.
ResponderEliminarI think it violates the human rights first of all because it implies racism and because it treats people like if they were animals and like if american citizens were a superior race, almost like the nazis in the world war II, that creates conflict.
I don't think there would be a better moment to launch a migration reform pro inmigration than now, because it's the time when it's most needed. The hate of a bunch of people shouldn't afect others. A migration reform must be launched so that the US and the people of another contries can be finally in harmony.
SOURCES
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arizona_SB1070
http://www2.esmas.com/noticierostelevisa/investigaciones-especiales/159242/en-qu-consiste-ley-sb-1070
Samuel I. Magdaleno A. 18416 ID Advanced English I
1.- The state of arizona started an unconsitutional law agaisnt indocumented inmigrants. This law goes against civil rights and even though thats happening has already taken efect in the state of Arizona. Most people aprove this law in the streets because they feel that inmigrants only bring trouble to that country. It was signed by Governor Jan Brewer on April 23 of this year. Even tough the migrants reform has been set in the waitting line , this doesn't mean that we should stoip mattering about it. This migrant reform should relaunch like 12-14 months after the AZ-SB1070 unconstitutuional law is well arranged so people can get used to it.Migrants are people and we should always remember that , we should never discriminate any kind of people. People should have the same rights here and everywhere. That’s why we should always think in people and help them , we should analize this situation and support with anything we can.
ResponderEliminarThe law SB 1070 allows Arizona authorities to arrest any person based on reasonable suspicion. This law is very popular because it affects a lot of people and even though some of them fallow it some are against it. Supporters say the law will pressure illegal immigrants to leave the country on their own. I think some people follow it because they think it’s better for their state to deport immigrants, but I don’t think it is because it affects people who look like Mexicans, families who have papers, etc. This law violates human rights such as discrimination because just if you look suspicious you can be arrested it. I don’t think it’s a good time to relaunch this migration law because there is no work and Mexicans and immigrants are crossing the border to get better job and life opportunities, and this law makes it harder. I don’t think this law is any good at all it will affect lots of people with no reason.
ResponderEliminarhttp://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/05/experts-arizona-law-violates-international-treaties/
http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/conlaw/2010/04/arizona-immigration-law.html
Constanza Rubio Gomez
17836 1rst semester
The Arizona law makes immigrants to have every time their papers and registration with them, because if a police question that they are in the U.S. illegally they deport them. A group of the UN human rights experts said that the new Arizona's immigration law can be a violation to the human rights. Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina said that the Arizona law is unconstitutional, but he didn't said why. President Obama doesn’t agree this law, because he thinks this law is only a shortcut to resolve the problem of illegal immigrants and what they really need to do is to resolve the problem without taking shortcuts. In my opinion, I think that the Arizona law violate the human rights because, if the police think that someone is an illegal immigrant they take him or her until they proof their not. This can be a type of discrimination for many people. Even once, I saw on the news that the sales on the stores in Arizona have gone down on their earnings. This is one of the many consequences that this law may have. I think that it could be a good idea to relaunch the migration reform. This new Arizona law have caused may protests and debates in the U.S.
ResponderEliminarYareli Orrantia
http://articles.latimes.com/2010/apr/28/nation/la-na-obama-midwest-20100429
http://jurist.org/paperchase/2010/05/un-rights-experts-say-arizona-immigration-law-may-violate-international-standards.php
http://articles.cnn.com/2010-04-23/politics/immigration.faq_1_immigration-reform-law-institute-immigrant-advocates-illegal?_s=PM:POLITICS
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/24/us/politics/24immig.html
The Arizona´s SB 1070 law is so popular because many Mexican citizens are migrating to the US looking for better opportunities of work and a higher life level. This law is getting people really scared and afraid of being knocked out from their lives and homes.
ResponderEliminarThis law is getting a lot of publicity because not everyone agrees with it, including president Obama who is on total disagreement. He claims that this law can cause Americans of Hispanic origins be harassed by the police without any cause.
This law violates human rights cause it discriminates individuals based on their ethnic origin, the law also violates the U.S. Constitution and will result in racial profiling of Hispanics.
This is probably not the right time to relaunch the migration reform because there are a lot of bigger problems in the country that should bother the US government more than getting Hispanics out of their territory. Till this moment the United States has been fighting a lot to get Hispanics out of their land and this law is only another one of their ways to do get rid of them. They feel like they are being invaded by them that is why this law is getting so polemic.
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2010/05/11
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Americas/2010/0729/Arizona-immigration-law-2010-As-SB1070-takes-effect-Mexicans-say-Adios-Arizona
Valeria Ruiz #17681
1st semester
Sharon Mac Comish Ripa 1stSemester ID#018338
ResponderEliminarThe Arizona law is very popular among people because it’s a polemic law, it’s a two way street. On the contrary experts think of it as inconstitucional because of the same polemic and feud it creates in society. As for me, I’m stuck in the middle; on one side I think it’s fair or that the U.S.A. has the right to deport people that don’t have legal papers to live there but on the other side it leaves the door open for discrimination & police brutality. Opponents have called it an open invitation for harassment and discrimination against Hispanics regardless of their citizenship status. In the times we are in,the circumstances and problems (money, war, etc..) I don’t concider this law helpful in any way: 1.- There are way to many illigal recidents in the U.S.A. & 2. The U.S.A. has to many biegger problems that should be resolved first.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/24/us/politics/24immig.html
Racism is an extremely bad thing in that has been done since the beginning of time and it has not stopped even this day. The new Arizona law says that if anyone in the street looks or is Mexicans they will be asked for their passport and all of their legal papers and if they aren’t carrying them with them they will be deported. This new law is known by everyone because it is extreme racism and racism is a big problem. It's such a big problem because it violates human rights. Human rights say that everyone is born equal and it doesn’t matter what their skin color is or where we are born because we are all humans and this law violates these principals. There could not be a worst time for this law to be legalized because right now Mexicans and "Latinos" are looking for job in the U.S.A due to the lack of jobs in their countries. If they get deported, they will have no job to support their friends and family.
ResponderEliminarMarco Rodriguez 18770 1 semestre
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/24/us/politics/24immig.html
Hector Montoya Alvarez T. 18156 1er Semestre
ResponderEliminarThe Arizona’s Law is so popular because is racism and almost all the people is against racism. Because all people is finding out about this law that says that if anyone in the street looks like a Mexican the police will ask them for their passport and if that person doesn’t have it even though they are USA residents they will send them to Mexico. It does violate human rights because all humans are born equal and it doesn’t matter what skin color they are or where they are born. This law was relaunch came in the worst moment because there is a lack of jobs and Mexicans have jobs there to support their friends and family and if they send them back to Mexico they will stay without job.
http://articles.latimes.com/2010/apr/28/nation/la-na-obama-midwest-20100429
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arizona_SB1070
People believe in the Arizona law because they believe in the politicians they vote for, therefor they think is reasonable and get conviced by arguments and facts thay may not be true. The way they're going to recognize the immigrants is deegrading by many means. Just because you have a latin roots the police will be able to stop you from doing whatever you're doing and make you show you're papers. So is impractical too, you wont be able stroll around without worrying about being asked for your papers.President Obama and President Calderon disagree with the law. Obama said that this law was the reflection of Arizona failure of fixing their border problems. Calderon emphasized that the weapons used in crimes in Mexico were from USA. I understand Arizona's need to put a stop to illegal immigration. But still is a discriminatory way to do it. And very agressive from the beginnig, so people resent that. Maybe if they have done it in another level, people would accept it more. But because it was in this way is consedered racism
ResponderEliminarfirst i think that american society thought about mexican peolpe as people who easily came to his country and steal the jobs and business of all america. the rasism is a subject of much controversy around the world being this the principal cause of the popularity of the arizona law.
ResponderEliminarobviously the arizona law violate the human rights because is a right for all non discrimination of race, color or nacionality.
i think that united states needs a law not to extrict that gives a solution to the unbrilded migration problem.
Racism has been a big problem since long time ago and the goberment tell us that now we dont need to worry about because now everyone have the same treatment. But, the new Arizona law order to check all the people that look like mexicans and sk them for they passaport. This is a big problem because is very racism. And yes! this law violates humans rights because every born equal and there is no reason to be racist with people that have diferent skin color, wel, maybe is a kind of justice because they are inmigrates but, they are making money for the United States like the arabians and japan people, mexicans that already have their lives there and work there must have the same treatment. I think that an incosntitutional law in this case the Arizona law to popular i think we must search for laws that we know and can solve the problem without being so rude and now more than ever beacuse of the economic problem and lack of jobs.
ResponderEliminarThis Arizona law has been a very popular subject among people because of the controversy that involves racism and unfair treatment of other human beings. These two aspects have been decisive on Obama and Calderón's perspective and opinions. Both disagree on the use of the law, although the Governor of Arizona, Jan Brewer signed the nation's toughest immigration law. This law violates human rights because of how the illegal immigrants in Arizona are being treated; they are being taken by the state police without any mercy or chance of expressing a justification of their legal state.
ResponderEliminarBoth presidents of México and USA are thinking of an alternative to solving the migration problem that does not involve calling illegal immigration a "state law". A useful alternative can be a migration reform, which can help the millions of illegal mexican migrants and at the same time, help the US's economy because most part of the mexican workers have no legal documents.
- Adrian Favela - 16506 - 3A -
An unconstitutional law can be very popular with the people, because, for example, in Arizona there’s a law which was not written on the constitution but made a great impact between people. This law established that they were going to identify, prosecute and deport illegal immigrants, which became really popular between people since, most of people living there is Hispanic.
ResponderEliminarI believe that, government shouldn’t be so tough about it. If they have money, that’s because of us. So, the best move is to make the legalization progress easier, and offer facilities.
I don’t think it’s the right moment to relaunch the migration reform, since the economic crisis has affected every single one of us. They need the money as much as we do. Best thing to do right now is work together and create jobs.
Melissa Ramirez
16636
3A
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/24/us/politics/24immig.html
The law is very important for the people who live in Arizona because is going to affect them , especially to the Mexican people , all the people should know about it because in this case if you look like mexican you should hace your papers with you. Also maybe the American people is agree with it but really I don't think so because they need us to live.
ResponderEliminarThis is very unfare.The law is saying that if you look like Mexican or from another part of South America they are going to ask you for your papers . This is attacking the people because is an example of racism and discrimination to the Mexico and South America.Even Calderon an Obama are not agree with the law because they think they are going to affect the ralationship of both countries.
Actually I think that if they accept the law again both countries are going to start a fight because both presidents don't want to accept it
I think is not a good thing , both parts of parts of the border are going to be suffering a lot with the law thats why I'm not agree with the law and I will never be agree with it.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/mundo/america_latina/2010/05/100519_1735_calderon_obama_eeuu_ley_arizona_mz.shtml
Zayri Karime Baruch Chavez
#17097
3A
I think it is very popular cooking and refrigeration, which affects a large proportion of the population, because as we know in the U.S.A. There are lots of illegal immigrants and in other perspective the people than born in Texas or who have the nationalization most be very racist and this makes more difficult the possibility of eradicating the law. With regard to whether it violates human rights, I think the answer is more than obvious because all the people that crossing the border only wanted a better life wanted a decent life and why refuse it?. I think that in this moments this law is very complicate, because in U.S.A. live many of Mexican’s and too much persons of others countries and I think that is very difficult that in a little time change this, because not only is draw all people most than that is change the life style of many.
ResponderEliminarMayra Alejandra Cabrera Acosta. 3a
#17245
I believe the americans support this law because they don't realize the important amaunt of dollars the mexicans expends every day. They are protecting their "patriotism", but what can they protect? if they don't even have a rich culture like the mexicans. the way the mexicans get into the united states it isn't the right one but, the reason of "aplaing the law" is just hiding the discrimination for the mexicans and that goes agains the humand right. In the end i believe it will be really unintelegent because they will lose workes, custumers and the most important the mexican money. It would be better if they make a law that supports the migrants, that would be intelegent.
ResponderEliminarby Carolina Sandoval Luna 3.A #17272
september 20/2010 http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/24/us/politics/24immig.html
When a law is inconstitutional, there will always be the polemic factor, and weirdly enough polemic always gets popular. Such is the case of the Arizona law for immigrants that is near to approval. The polemic part about this law is all the human rights issues that in envolves. Some people say that it can get to racism, because of the officers judging by race. Others say that it is just a way to get rid of mexican people. Of course, people that support this law are considered racist by their opposite. Despite the fact of the possible racism, every one has the right of privacy, and the forcing of the officer to make them answer would end up in a human right violation. Since this law has attracted and repelled many people, it has created a huge controversy; in order to not give the victory to a side, there is no better time to develop a migration reform.
ResponderEliminarArmando Moreno / 16729 / 3A
The new Arizona law is popular because it involves a lot people that are in the US and in Mexico, seeing the points of view of American and Mexican citizens as well as the political disagreements. This mass of different opinions creates controversy. It depends in either you agree or disagree with the law that this controversy could either be positive or negative. I think this law violates human rights, it creates stereotypes. With this new law police officers are right to stop anyone who looks suspicious and if they don’t have their papers to prove they are an American citizen they are going to arrest them, which means that every citizen would need to carry their papers all the time, if you look Latino or have an accent you can be arrested by that too. That violates your rights, it creates a space where Mexicans citizens that have become Americans can be insulted or even discriminated. I think is the right moment to create a relaunch of the migration reform, politicians have to be more careful about what this new law is going to be, you have to see the consequences it may cause, and of course they have to be conscious about what the Mexican government thinks about this law.
ResponderEliminarSalma Violeta Samaha Ortiz 3A #9
This law affect to the people in a big way. This event was very famous in USA because in this country there are many illegal people. Mexico like always receive the consequences of the actions about different governments. It law have a strong relation between the human rights and politic aspects because is like to treat to the Mexicans like criminals, with a lot discrimination, and this is a way to violate the human rights that everyone have. Generally, the people believe in the government, in all that it says but in occasions, in many occasions, the government manage the information and laws to reach their goals and the people didn`t know like in this event. It law violates the human rights because use the discrimination as a form to solve the troubles. Actually, not is the correct moment to create this reform because there many there many troubles in the world and the country: poverty. Also, the government don´t have the conditions to confront a event like this. Its a way to lose the rights.
ResponderEliminarSahoori Rivera 16928, 3° A
http://www.derechoshumanos.org.mx/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1138
The new considerations established by the Arizona law are creating a great polemic between government and citizens. It impresses the way this law is dividing a nation into many perspectives and opinions. At the moment this law was proposed it fissures not only the community but the whole Parliament so this could possibly generate a doubt between people about the effectiveness or ethical implications of it. It is contradictory applying a law that’s from my own point of view is not beneficial for most of the people, the fact of using stereotypes to mark someone as illegal or undocumented is denigrating. It becomes racist the fact of not to accepting people who have worked throughout his life to the economy of a nation and now brand them as harmful and even more the fact that someone with “authority” like the police can immediately judge you as illegal and private you from your rights and liberty. I think that as society we aren’t prepare yet to big changes, so an immigration law has to be well planned and proposed by the government considering that as an authority it has a duty to protect the interests of its citizens and work for their benefits and they don’t have to forget that after all we’re are humans and we have be treated with respect no matter where you come from or the way you look like.
ResponderEliminarTania Iveth Lizarraga Perez.
16507 3A
Unconstitutional laws can become really popular. Some people at Arizona believe that this law is okay because they believe that what the Arizona law says is right and that it will benefit them. I definitely think that this law violates human rights. Migration is judging people by the way they look. There is a lot of discrimination going on at Arizona because of this. I don’t think is fair for people to be judging others because of their color or way of life. I think that Arizona will lose a lot of money because Mexicans use to travel to Arizona to consume their products, but now people are afraid to go because they don’t want to be deported. Arizona’s economy will be affected in a drastic way.
ResponderEliminarandrea fernandez cota 17197 3a
I think that president Obama and president Calderon thinks the same about this polemic law. An unconstitutional law applied by experts takes a huge range because it’s a situation that violate human rights and that is something that all the people have. Personally I think that is a law that remembers the Nazi posture, the discrimination and hate to the Jewish and both postures violate human rights. All the people it’s the same, no matter if they aspect and thinking’s. The US government should revalue the initiative and consider the human rights. We are in the right moment to stop this racist situation of injury and incoherence.
ResponderEliminarDavid Robles Hernandez
3A
#17016
Bibliography: *http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/notas/675140.html
*http://www.bbc.co.uk/mundo/internacional/2010/05/100519_mexico_eeuu_calderon_visita_arizona.shtml
People will belive anything experts say, experts for most people are future tellers and gods, they make mistakes, and mistakes, like in this case, can affect a lot of people. Human rigths are made scrambbled eggs, because,this is not security, this is racism. This is just the beggining latinos and arabs, ask the jews. Around all this law controversy, we could flip the tortilla and make an all out impulse for the new inmigration law, with a good inmigration law aproved, the Arizona law would have no efect.
ResponderEliminar"Until the color of a man's skin has no more significance than the color of his eyes, there will be war." -Robert Nesta "Bob" Marley
Jose Eduardo Muzquiz Loya 3:A 17708
This law has become popular between the people, because this is an historic law. Never in the history of the United States was legally allowed to suspect of anyone just of how they physically look. That action was just another way of being racist against immigrants, specifically Hispanic ones, and it still is. It actually violates human rights, beacuse the law makes a judgement against an immigrant based just in the physical aspect than making a thorough research of that person. Besides, Hispanic immigrants reperesent a big part of the population in Arizona, and therefore, an important part of economy is on their hands. The elimination of that percentage of workers would mean the collapse of the US' economy in less the five years, especially in this actual economic crisis. It can make the US economy fall to a big barkruptcy not present since the 30's Big Depression and, maybe it can be the biggest economic collapse in the history of a country.
ResponderEliminar3F 16982
The unconstitutional laws can be popular with the people because for them the word of its government is important and they usually think that what they do and say it’s for the benefit of society.
ResponderEliminarThe laws are very important for the people of Arizona as well as for Mexican; because it affects the way they live. The law that says that Mexicans will be deported from the U.S. if they don’t have their papers is kind of cruel and unfair because they are prejudging for the appearance of the people. They are attacking the people and they are discriminating them and that is not good.
In fact if they relaunch the migration reform the economy might drop more than it is already, because we are the ones that buy and consume the thing they produce.
Carolina Fernandez Cota 17193 3f
Bibliography:
James, D. (2010). Unconstitutional laws in Arizona. recuperado el 20 de septiembre del 2010 de http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2010/04/26/is_arizona_immigration_law_constitutional
1. Is popular because, inspite is against some human rights, it's what some people want to. Is exactly the same thing with the so-called death penalty. In Mexico, for example, most of the people mention first that no one should deciden how or when to end someone's life, but in some states of the Union, people put first the safety that would bring, inspite ethics. As long as some groups of the society thing that this law is making them a favor, even if it is unconstitutional, they will accept it.
ResponderEliminar2. Of course it does. I know that they're breaking the law by being illegal citizens, but is even more illegal to make them loose their houses, their jobs, their families, everything.
3. Not yet. Currently, the Democratic Party has had some trouble after the application of the SB1070, an inmigration reform would only have a mid-size impact. What needs to happen first is to make a consensus, so it can be accepted universally.
- luis c. aguila 16851 3f
Arizona law has gained popularity among the citizens because of its lack of humanism and the racism situation that generates. It classifies people in a denigrating way, treated as inferiors, when we're all human beings and we just create more problems that separate us from being one. According to Jan Brewer the governor of Arizona, this law protects the state budget and the jobs for the Arizona population, but why mexicans can't be considered part of it when there's plenty of people living there long ago. It is unfair to treat people in a rude way just because of some meaningless differences, we should all receive the same opportunities, so that way we could all bring benefits. Felipe Calderon for the first time has said something meaningful: "SB 1070 not only ignores a reality that cannot be erased by decree, but also introduces a terrible idea: using racial features as grounds for applying the new law", he approves a migration reform, and so do I, because this polemic situation can be driven into a bigger racism problem.
ResponderEliminarAlexa M. Alonso Armenta #17578. 3F
http://sdpnoticias.com/sdp/contenido/internacional/2010/05/20/18/1047888
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ResponderEliminarI think the new Arizona law violates de human rights because in the 2nd article of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights clearly states that “everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms [..], without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, national or social origin, and others”.2 So this means that governer Janice Brewer is attempting against this rights and someone should do something to end this. I understand that there are some laws that the citizens have to obey but only because you look like if you were a latin or mexican person, you can be pursued by the United States authorities and that they can disturb your privacy and peace without being an immigrant.
ResponderEliminarAlthough you were illegal in the USA, they should be grateful at those millions of persons that work for their country and bring a better economy, and other positive effects that make USA a better country.
Sources:
• 1http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/24/us/politics/24immig.html
• 2http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/index.shtml
Jade F. #16945 3F
2. Do you think that violates human rights?
ResponderEliminarR= All the people have rights, rights are values that potect you (law).
I think yes, because they´re discriminating all the people only because the skin color or the aspect and also are arresting mexicans without any reason. Human rights were created to protect all single person in this world and U.S.A it´s breaking the law, taking out the immigrants. Is true immigrants are not legal in USA and it´s also against the law but thats not the way of solve the problem, also we are the people that work for them so they can´t complain about this.
Finally I think USA is violating the human rights because they are discriminating and humillating mexicans and thats not a good way to to treat people who do the hard work for another country.
Hector Diaz # 16648. 3F
I believe nobody should be judged by their appearance, in this case the new Arizona law shows that if you have certain features that can be considered as `mexican appearance´ you could be arrested and even deported without caring about your work ,family and life you´ve done in the United States.Jan Brewer says she is trying to protect citizens of Arizona, without realizing that much of its population is Hispanic, and that many of these people are working hard to support their families, Arizona's economy is based largely on the work of many Mexicans who contribute significantly to the United States. This law became popular because it generates controversy, and there are many people that are not agree but there are the ones that do agree. despite its racism. nobody has the right to judge or treat someone else as inferior, and less if used features or physical characteristics to do so.We are all humans.
ResponderEliminarBarbara Cravioto Vargas 16891 3F
I dont believe that its the best moment to launch this law because, things in the world are getting worse migration has been a mayor problem in the US but its because they started with their freedom and all those politics so they ll just have to deal with it since they were the ones who started to welcome immigrants and now all of the sudden they want to kick them out, that doesnt make sense and i dont think its going to loaunch since the US depends a lot on the latinos asians and blacks to do the hard work while the white amercian society just sit on their front porch seeing how an illegal mexican does his lawn. i believe this law is absurd and discriminating since we re all the same in the eyes of god so they say its thier job to help others and this is the contrary.
ResponderEliminarUnfortunately a big majority of the population lives in the ignorance, and that is the reason of why a mass can support an unconstitutional law such as the Arizona’s SB 1070, created and promoted by experts of course, who know how to persuade people and make them think that something terrible could be wonderful.
ResponderEliminarThe Arizona’s SB 1070 Law violates human rights in all senses. First because you cannot judge someone just because of their physical appearance. And it is prohibited to arrest someone without charges. And besides that, it is promoting racism in a state where half the population is Latin.
Instead of creating laws that humiliate people, with the excuse that it is for the safety of the nation, they should increase the borders security so they do not have to resort to such "solutions".
Is the time to demand, both presidents, Obama and Calderon, to do something to solve this problem that affects millions of Latin families, not only in Arizona, also in other states like South Carolina.
VIRIDIANA AMBRIZ FIMBRES 3F. 17082
* http://elzolradio.radio.com/2010/05/20/que-dice-la-ley-sb1070-de-arizona/
-Some sectors of the US are known for their racism, so its only logical they would approve and like this kind of law. The ilegal, or non-humanitary thing about this is that they can target anyone who looks like an immigrant. Of course there are a lot of people that may look like that, but are legally living in the US, so that brings a problem to innocent people.
ResponderEliminarSo targeting innocent people is a violation to human rights. We need our privacy, people can´t just go and arrest us without any warning.
I dont think this is the right time for this kind of reform. It would only create chaos, and problems to the goverment. It would be unwise to release an anti-immigrant reform.
-Rodolfo Hernandez
3F, 16455
The United States urgency to create a migration reform it's what's causing all the drama over at Arizona. The ideals of some has pressured government and sectors of society to come up with a new law that can be applied rapidly against Latin Americans that now live in Arizona, and have lived there for the past years. The violation of human rights is evident, because we are not talking about a simple law that has been passed, we’re talking about a law that incriminates anyone who looks like a Latin American, a clear racist measure that only endangers anyone who has Latin roots, and are now ashamed or afraid of their own appearance. The need of a national migration reform in the U.S is an urgent matter, but no one can do anything while the SB 1070 stays valid in sectors of Arizona, since a national law requires the same establishment for all the people in the U.S, while the migration law at Arizona stays valid, a new reform is impossible to achieve
ResponderEliminarEduardo Vazquez Flores
3F 17285
It's popular because Arizona's' law its again all Latino america, and its created by experts in a good way that can persuade a lot of ignorance people making them belief that the idea its good for everybody.And of course they are violating tha human rights because nobody can judge you just for your physical appearance and especially because in that state most of the half of the population is Latin.Its a good example of racism just for having Latin roots.
ResponderEliminarI think that a migration reform its not a good idea in this time because it will cause a lot of problems to the government in which maybe will add some new laws to solve the problem.
2. Do you think that violates human rights?
ResponderEliminarMy perception of this law is that it reflects the hate feelings of the sector of the government class; and to blame somebody of the economic troubles in a way to gain political position.
I think this is evil. The purpose of the law is to make illegal immigrants criminals, and it is directed to those that look like Mexicans.
everybody in the word has an immigrant in their ancestress, all the people making this law are not originally from Arizona, and they were never denied to immigrate, they are only showing the hate to people that do not belong to what they think are their equals.
This violates the most basic values of the human been.
Countries have the right to protect their land and security, but this law is not pursuing this rights, is focused on having someone else guilty of what that politicians have done wrong, and at the same time show their bad feelings with their "uncomfortable" neighbors.
This is a violation to the most basic human rights.
Cristina Sandoval Luna
17271 3F
Because can involve to all the society in which it is applied this new law,
ResponderEliminarbeing that can be the interest before publishing it as oficial and being the posibility of the society aprovation as their conveniens, that they are wich have to obey them.
And, well it's a complex law, that can involucrate the human rights, but absulutly I think that it violets them, but by the conception of that people, because they are who decide to live in there and trying to have a better life, but I think that the just way is to just control the immigration and accept it, becuase maybe in some way they are who can help in production and some jobs, but them who can affect the country, they are who don't would deserve those privileges.
Well Yes, because of the growth of population, but in some way to modify them by the certein points mentioned above, and the better way that people can aprove it, by a way can privilege everyone.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/24/us/politics/24immig.html
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http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2010/0728/Why-Judge-Susan-Bolton-blocked-key-parts-of-Arizona-s-SB-1070
by ABEL RANGEL TREJO
3F
#16900
9:54pm
1.-Well, I think it can be because it depends on how much power the person suggesting that unconstitutional law has to controll people, thats why in this kind of laws there are so much people that agree with them
ResponderEliminar2.-I think any country is free of having their owmn laws, but in this case, racism is taking place because its not fair that the undocumental people are not welcome, because they more much more than the residents.
3.-Because of the economic crisis I dont think this is fair and its not the right moment.
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